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    The missing interview and dead link were later noted by independent Senator Lidia Thorpe, who posted about it on Instagram.

    Legend.

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    The URL of the removed article: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-26/pms-gaza-comments-too-late-says-advocate/105338640

    I’m currently on https://www.abc.net.au/news/contact providing “Feedback” criticising the ABC for this decision. In my message, I’m noting:

    • The ABC’s legislated requirement to provide a broad range of perspectives
    • The growing international consensus that Israel is committing genocide
    • The ABC’s recent history of caving to pro-Israel pressure (and the waste of taxpayer resources in taking their Lattouf case to court) and how this latest case is showing a trend that damages the ABC’s reputation for impartiality

    And calling on the ABC to explain why this was removed, immediately reinstate the interview, and commit to ensuring they do better about representing human rights in the future. I encourage others to do the same.

    edit: after completing that form, I was informed that actually I should be submitting here: https://help.abc.net.au/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=6354974197519 to “make a complaint”. I am saying “Bias” best describes my issue, on the ABC NEWS website.

    edit the second: in making the complaint, I decided to also add a bit about:

    • The ABC’s duty to fair and honest dealing with interview subjects. Mashni should have been informed by the ABC that they took down his interview and why. It should not come to his attention when readers tell him they couldn’t find the interview.
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    Cowards. They’re so afraid of blowback that they capitulated to the most disingenuous bastards imaginable.

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      Ain’t mordoch from AU?

      Parasite got too much pull over global media. May st Luigi bless his heart.

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        Murdoch is an American citizen. He literally chose to give up his Australian citizenship. As far as I’m concerned, that makes him less Australian than the average random American who’s never been to Australia. They at least have zero Australianness. Murdoch has negative.

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    So he is calling for the elimination of Israel? Or is he calling for a one-nation state where a Palestinian majority will supposedly conduct a democracy without misogyny, homophobia ignoring the Hamas agenda to expel all Jews?

    Am well aware there are a growing number of Jews with an agenda to expel all Arabs from Gaza. I wouldn’t want ABC propagating sloganeering from them either.

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      He’s calling for an end to the genocide, and for the Australian government to cease promoting genocide by doing two-way arms trade with the genocidal state.

      Anything else is whataboutism.

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        The Post is literally summarised here in my Lemmy feed with:

        During the interview, Nasser Mashni made a pointed remark that it was time ‘for Palestine to be free, from the river to the sea’

        That could well be why the interview was pulled. One could argue whether that slogan is sinister or not. If sinister they could have aired it without the slogan (but some would argue against platforming someone with that view).

        These are the actual issues it seems, certainly not whataboutism.

        EDIT: Turns out this Crikey article is not paywalled (unlike most of Crikey). So I read it and platforming should not be an issue since it says the guy is a regular.

        The closing paragraphs are:

        Crikey received a statement from the ABC on Wednesday morning, a day after this story was published, which said the interview had been uploaded to the broadcaster’s website and iview accidentally.

        “The original content was done as a live-to-air interview as part of broader coverage and was not intended to be published as a stand-alone clip. It was mistakenly uploaded and when that was noticed it was taken down,” a spokesperson said.

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          Ah interesting. That edited statement was not there when I first read the article. Frankly, I don’t believe the ABC’s claim. If it were true, that’s an answer that could easily have been provided in time for publication. They’ve come up with a post-hoc excuse after seeing how much play this story was getting. They had initially hoped to quietly acquiesce to the pro-genociders without attracting as much attention as the last time they did so.

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            And since they went through the bother of “accidentally” uploading it, why did they go through the extra bother to remove it?

            They play both sides. Am sure they have their own internal battles of which side to support since they do not seem consistent to me.

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              From what I can tell, the average ABC worker is on the right side of this. But ABC management seems to have a direct line to the genocide supporters. And when the Israel lobbyists tell Kim Williams (or formerly Ita Buttrose) to jump, he (she) asks “how high?” We only need look at the Lattouf case or, less sensationally, Sandy Gutman, to see that.

              That’s why what repeatedly happens is the right thing happens at first. Then management gets wind of it, usually because of DMs from lobbyists, and orders a reversal.

              In this case, I think what probably happened is it got uploaded as normal. Because that’s what they do. Any vaguely interesting segment of television gets uploaded to their website and iView. Then the Israel lobby saw it, saw that he was calling out their genocide, and got on the like to Williams or Hugh Marks or someone else on the board or management, and they sent down the instruction to nix it.

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                Didn’t Media Watch report on this exact phenomenon earlier this year?

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                  Maybe. I couldn’t find the report if it did, but that’s not a huge surprise given how hard this is to google for.

                  I’d be extra interested if it happened under the current Media Watch host, who has ties to zionist organisations (he studied at Moriah College, a member of the zionist “Jewish Communal Appeal”), and started on Media Watch in February or March this year.

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                From what I can tell, the average ABC worker is on the right side of this.

                The average worker is Left wing and therefore agrees with Hamas’ position. I am Left but often disagree with them on the Gaza issues. In fact their dodgy reporting on Al Ahli hospital early on lost them their credibility.

                I have not seen any news organisation consistently report “fairly”. The only example of even-handedness was a pair of entries from a blogger a couple of months into the war (probably still valid - let me know if it has dated)…

                https://yoavfisher.medium.com/israel-has-lost-the-war-d7b9b3934f73

                https://yoavfisher.medium.com/hamas-has-lost-the-war-5bea9813fcf3

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                  I think it’s very important to start from the place of acknowledging that nothing Hamas does or has done is relevant. Whether someone condemns Hamas or wholeheartedly supports them, or (as most people probably do) sit somewhere in between, really doesn’t matter. Because genocide is absolutely, totally, inexcusable. Even if Hamas were committing genocide themselves, that does not excuse Israel’s genocide. And the fact is that Hamas isn’t committing genocide. They literally could not if they wanted to. They haven’t the power necessary for it.

                  Any organisation that is censoring people who accuse Israel of genocide, or who play whataboutism games by trying to ensure that condemnations of Israel are always followed by condemnations of Hamas, are abetting genocide.

                  This meme summarises it nicely.

                  A cartoon of a cat saying "It's impossible to starve children to death in self defense"

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        Listen to the words he actually said

        He said ‘for Palestine to be free, from the river to the sea’.

        That is a call for Islamic Imperialism, for the end of Israel and the killing of all Israelis including the 20% of Israelis who are Muslim.

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          He qualified what he meant by that statement in his very next breath. And it very much wasn’t a call for imperialism.

          It doesn’t do anyone well to ignore the clearly stated intentions behind somebody’s words.

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            You are right but it wasn’t in the Crikey article of OP so go maybe easy on the commenter.

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              Wasn’t it? Okay.

              Its Seagoon_@aussie.zone, i hope they know, i know they’re a good person.

              Lots of AZ regulars know each other’s views fairly well now. I’s actually surprised this was seagoon’s first comment in this thread tbh.

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          Is it Jewish imperialism when the Likud party in 1977 election manifesto said: “Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”?

          Or does that not count because whataboutism?

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            It is a good point however Likud took 5 dud attempted coalitions before coming back in power. Bibi was about to go on trial for embezzlement. They were not that popular.

            Unfortunately while Likud are still not popular, political pundits say the Left would be very unlikely to form a coalition government in the next election.

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              Likud had become a lot more popular in Israel now that it’s fast tracking the extermination of Palestinians. Which makes sense given that even the most left wing mainstream position there is still pro-Genocide

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          No, listen to all the words he said that Palestinian freedom needs to come, not at the expense of other people.

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            Admittedly Crikey accidentally made it sound worse by taking it out of context but they may not have had access to the video (which has since been posted in this thread).

            Nevertheless, a one-state solution cannot work because Hamas are not seeking what this guest is talking about.

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              And a two state solution cannot work because Israel will not allow it and has basically already made it impossible.

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                Likud certainly don’t want it unfortunately. Horrible situation.

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                  No mainstream Israeli political block wants it.

                  Funny how Hamas’s alleged opposition to the one state solution makes you furiously support genocide and declare that it’s their own fault, but Israel’s actual opposition to the two state solution makes you shrug and go “horrible situation really, guess we have no choice but to exterminate the Palestinians”

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          Only Zionists could seriously try to claim that “calling for Palestinians to be free = calling for genocide”

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            Well let’s have a look at how well Jews are doing in other Muslim majority countries shall we?

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              So calling for Palestinians to be free = calling for genocide, because of unrelated countries.

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      Nobody cares about Israel in the main stream opinion

      Tell Israeli regime played it self 🤡