• Zagorath@aussie.zoneOP
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    9 days ago

    No, listen to all the words he said that Palestinian freedom needs to come, not at the expense of other people.

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      9 days ago

      Admittedly Crikey accidentally made it sound worse by taking it out of context but they may not have had access to the video (which has since been posted in this thread).

      Nevertheless, a one-state solution cannot work because Hamas are not seeking what this guest is talking about.

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        9 days ago

        And a two state solution cannot work because Israel will not allow it and has basically already made it impossible.

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          9 days ago

          Likud certainly don’t want it unfortunately. Horrible situation.

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            No mainstream Israeli political block wants it.

            Funny how Hamas’s alleged opposition to the one state solution makes you furiously support genocide and declare that it’s their own fault, but Israel’s actual opposition to the two state solution makes you shrug and go “horrible situation really, guess we have no choice but to exterminate the Palestinians”

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              Furiously? I am not the one making ad hominem attacks. I am not putting words in your mouth. I declared no such thing. I bring up uncomfortable facts.

              There is no such thing as a mainstream political bloc. 5 coalitions were tried and quickly failed resulting in renewed elections before Netanyahu won. There are Left leaning Israeli parties (who value liberalism, unlike Hamas) but I am pretty sure they don’t want to vacate the Levant either which is what these discussions always seem to come down to.

              Jews aint leaving. Arabs aint leaving. Get real. I don’t know how they can make it work. Neither of us has a solution.

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                Furiously? I am not the one making ad hominem attacks. I am not putting words in your mouth.

                I bring up uncomfortable facts.

                No, you deny the uncomfortable facts while bringing up convenient lies.

                I’m not interested in being civil to a genocide denier.

                There are Left leaning Israeli parties

                Yeah, and they’re also pro-genocide.

                Neither of us has a solution.

                Your solution seems to be insisting that nothing else is possible except letting the genocide continue, while you endlessly try to divert to blaming Hamas and excusing Israel’s exponentially worse crimes