The accepted definition of genocide isn’t what you think it is. It isn’t what I thought it was either, until I educated myself.
I can’t see any way to argue that blocking food to a large population of civilians is NOT genocidal. It doesn’t require active military action to meet agreed UN criteria:
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Oh damn. I thought you were a reasonable person with different views until this comment. It took you an impressively long time to come out with the explicit genocide denial.
I’m surprised Beehaw of all places allows genocide denial, tbh.
Do you really need to resort to name calling and bullying? There are reasonable arguments to be had.
You call it genocide but I do not accept your redefinition of the word. Do you call Russia’s war on Ukraine genocide? Russia targets purely civilian towns with drones and missiles (unlike Gaza situation) but it isn’t genocide. I can acknowledge that despite being pro-Ukraine.
I’m not really interested in anything you, a random Lemming, have to say about whether or not it’s a genocide. And you shouldn’t be interested in anything I say either.
What you should be interested in is the growing scholarly consensus. Organisations like the United Nations Special Committee into the matter, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the International Court of Justice have all stated either that it definitely is or plausibly could be genocide. Academic researchers into genocide are “surprisingly unanimous”, with only a small number of zionists denying it at this point.
As for “name calling and bullying”. If you deny genocide, then stating that you are a genocider is neither of those things. It is a simple fact.
On the contrary, Ireland has been trying to get the official definition of genocide changed so that it can match what is happening in Gaza but cannot get enough countries on board.
As for your link: "A growing number of academics, legal scholars and governments are accusing the lsraeli government of carrying out a
genocide against Palestinians in
Gaza." is hardly authoritative.
“A growing number” with no substantiation that it is growing. Besides, it is in contravention of the Geneva Convention definition.
You can’t be “left” when you’re pro-genocide
They aren’t very efficient with “genocide” are they? Bad shots you reckon?
It is a terrible war without resorting to hyperbole. I understand it is for PR but surely we can be better than that on Lemmy?
The accepted definition of genocide isn’t what you think it is. It isn’t what I thought it was either, until I educated myself.
I can’t see any way to argue that blocking food to a large population of civilians is NOT genocidal. It doesn’t require active military action to meet agreed UN criteria:
https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Oh damn. I thought you were a reasonable person with different views until this comment. It took you an impressively long time to come out with the explicit genocide denial.
I’m surprised Beehaw of all places allows genocide denial, tbh.
Do you really need to resort to name calling and bullying? There are reasonable arguments to be had.
You call it genocide but I do not accept your redefinition of the word. Do you call Russia’s war on Ukraine genocide? Russia targets purely civilian towns with drones and missiles (unlike Gaza situation) but it isn’t genocide. I can acknowledge that despite being pro-Ukraine.
I’m not really interested in anything you, a random Lemming, have to say about whether or not it’s a genocide. And you shouldn’t be interested in anything I say either.
What you should be interested in is the growing scholarly consensus. Organisations like the United Nations Special Committee into the matter, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the International Court of Justice have all stated either that it definitely is or plausibly could be genocide. Academic researchers into genocide are “surprisingly unanimous”, with only a small number of zionists denying it at this point.
As for “name calling and bullying”. If you deny genocide, then stating that you are a genocider is neither of those things. It is a simple fact.
On the contrary, Ireland has been trying to get the official definition of genocide changed so that it can match what is happening in Gaza but cannot get enough countries on board.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-wants-expansion-of-the-definition-of-genocide-under-the-geneva-convention-says-taoiseach/a1112529887.html
As for your link: "A growing number of academics, legal scholars and governments are accusing the lsraeli government of carrying out a genocide against Palestinians in Gaza." is hardly authoritative.
“A growing number” with no substantiation that it is growing. Besides, it is in contravention of the Geneva Convention definition.
I don’t know how you can possibly think that is relevant
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