If you don’t care why are you commenting and trying to pretend they don’t know what they’re talking about? You just bailed at the first sign that they do, lmao.
Go educate yourself, liberal, and learn how to be honest with yourself and others.
It is actually common knowledge if you know anything about Ukraine. Most Westerners know nothing about Ukraine and couldn’t even find it on a map, so literally nothing about it except “blue and yellow flag” should be considered common knowledge among them.
Look up Victoria Nuland and her comments on Euromaidan and succession.
Wars end. They either end in a peace deal with give and take or in total capitulation. Ukraine isn’t going to capitulate Russia, so you’re just in favor of prolonging war at the expense of Ukrainians. This is consistent with liberals’ general dehumanization of Eastern Europeans.
These kinds of threads are full of armchair warmonger repeats “infinite arms and Ukrainian blood against the Russians”, just repeating generic Russophobic rationalizations that justify infinite war. When the monstrosity of their views are pointed out, when they are reminded that Ukrainians are people and they want peace, out come the accusations and namecalling. Russian bot! Shill! Absurd and idiotic, but above all, playing with racism they can get away with, possibly liberals’ favorite activity next to misogyny they can get away with and homophobia they can get away with. Like an image of Putin in drag or making our with Trump.
You can verify yourself that there are variations of some of these things in this very thread. It’s just a game to these people, abstract rhetoric.
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Ukraine’s strategy is to expel the invader and ask for any and all assistance in the defense of their country from Russia’s war of conquest.
Ukraine is not a sovereign country. Its affairs are dictated by the Western countries that pushed Euromaidan, selected its subsequent president, ensured the failure of Minsk II, and now support endless war to the last Ukrainian. So far as I can tell, there is not much strategy to Ukraine outside of “keep fighting”, and their overall strategy has been absolutely desolating for the population, throwing people into meat grinder after meat grinder, which Russia finds an acceptable status quo.
All of the help from Poland, the UK, the US, Baltics, Germany, and other European countries is massively appreciated.
Is it appreciated by those being forcefully conscripted? What about the majorities who want a negotiated peace? Perhaps they do, but don’t let this get in the way of understanding that endless escalation and war is not popular, and this is nevertheless what is happening.
More is requested and it’s good to see the UK is stepping up in a much bigger way to assist in their defense.
If you had read the article, you would know that it’s about (1) austerity cuts justified by (2) general fund increased “defense” spending, not specifically for Ukraine-based arms. The only mention of Ukraine is Starmer’s unhinged comments about potentially sending troops to Ukraine, i.e. NATO member troops to Ukraine, which is, again, only an escalation.
As I already mentioned, the goal of endless arms to Ukraine is one of escalation and using Ukrainians as fodder against Russia, not actually helping the country. The country is already ruined, it has been sold off to these OECD countries for a song (or for “defense”, as the propaganda term would put it). Some “aid”, getting UA’s land and industries in return! Some “aid”, i.e. loans with interest!
The UK intervened to stop peace negotiations early on and was complicit in undermining the implementation of Minsk II.
Like other OECD countries, the UK was and is happy to use Ukraine as a weapon against Russia, no matter how many Ukrainians die. Their strategy is to escalate, not defend.
The UK should be abolished.
“Defense”.
Funny how that translates into bombs against brown people in their own country.
Constantly replying is really driving home how much you don’t care.